Tuesday, February 21, 2012

The Lacerta Files debunked?


"The Lacerta Files"

If you have not already seen it there is a 2 hour long audio version of the lacerta interview on youtube transformed into audio by us here at Alternative Realities .click HERE to view it. We have had a pdf copy of this since ages and decided to transform it into audio. It's a great story about an alleged interview in Sweden with a reptilian woman belonging to an advanced underground "reptilian race" with super natural abilities and advanced technology.

To describe it shortly it is about a Swede named Ole K., who by a friend is told that he had met a reptile woman in south of Sweden.And Ole was to be permitted to interview the woman which he later did at two occasions, 16 December 1999 and 24 April 2000. The interviews takes place in an unnamed town in southern Sweden. The woman, who calls herself Lacerta (Latin for reptile) has a reptile-like appearance, but, with the help of her abilities she make people see her in human form. She says she belongs to an ancient race that lived underground for millions of years and hidden openings of their caves can be found in Sweden and lots of other places throughout the world. Further she says that some of the flying saucers we humans are seeing does belong her reptilian race. She travels to the surface now and then to study humans but does not normally allow open contact with anyone or let anyone see her in her true reptilian form.

Now there are some websites out there claiming to have some sort of copyright on this transcript that was granted by some Swedish guy named Jimmy Bergman! Problem is that when researching this it shows that Jimmy Bergman is just a fictional person. And the only explanation is that certain websites made that name up so that it would appear like they had been granted the copyright.Which is not the case there is no Jimmy Bergman to be found that claim to be the author or original receiver of this transcript that appeared about 10 years ago!
In the end this name seems to have been constructed for one purpose only! Namely a lame copyright scam attempt. Which is really hilarious since the transcript says it should be spread far and wide and shared via e-mail and printed copies etc... this transcript was also spread that way from the beginning, and also via various file sharing networks such as dc++ in pdf format

There are 14008 persons in Sweden with the last-name: Bergman and 17274 persons with the name: Jimmy. which gives you a hint of that this is not a very unusual Swedish name

The only traces of what could possibly be the original source of this transcript that has been in circulation for about 10 years now and has become known as The Lacerta files. Is a man named Jo Conrad a controversial German author of conspiracy and New Age literature.Jo Conrads books are pretty much taboo in Germany because of him being accused of "antisemitism" and being "nazi friendly". Well enough of that, (and back on topic) in Jo Conrads book Ursprünge (released 2000) he has a chapter about Lacerta. Further more when asked Jo Conrad has said that he had a very brief e-mail correspondence with a Swede named Ole K., who at the time seemed scared and after a while the correspondence ceased without explanation. and Jo Conrad never heard from him again and has nothing more to say about it? Another trace of the The Lacerta files origin is www.sabon.org ,At the time of the Lacerta Files publishing on the page it was registered on Rico Kolodzey and still is, Rico a German mystic who is mostly known for his claims to be able to feed and live of sunlight and water only! A claim he applied to prove on "The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge" but was pretty much laughed at and he was not allowed to participate. Rico is not replying on any questions concerning the files or from where he first got them. thats just about as deep as you can get in the search for the true origins of "The Lacerta Files" Now you tell me if I ruin people´s fun? with expressing my own little theory: That just maybe Jo and Rico the two controversial Germans happen to friends? And just maybe Jo Conrad the AUTHOR ! of conspiracy and New Age literature! is my main suspect of who is the creator of this transcript?  We will probably never know and I guess thats just like those behind it wants it.
Fact or fiction it´s for you to decide

40 comments:

  1. My gut tells me the interview is indeed real. What she says coincides with many other testimonies ie: Urantia teachings, other insider testimony from those that have worked alongside reptillians in underground bases. They are NOT a race to be messed with. The Elohim of old warned humans about the reptoids for good reason. They were forced underground for good reason. I do hope the gent who had initial contact with Lacerta is still alive...something tells me he isn't. The reference link www.sabon.org speaks/warns that true protection comes from the Christ. I believe that to also be true. Faith is indeed our best armor...believe it and use it. She stated it is forbidden for her to make contact with humans..She thwarted divine universal law. Manylike her have thwarted those laws and work along side humans that temporarily profit from their greed for money and power. Soon that will all change. Thousands of humans have lost their lives to these flesh eating beings. They have no compassion for others as humans do and they hate us because of our divine heritage.

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    1. Didn't Christ say love your enemies ?
      Hybrids are the way to go :)

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    2. Based on several cases that I have investigated out here in the Western US, including looking into background info on the Branton material, I am very much convinced that the Reptilian lore, and the Lacerta files are for real. Included in this is a three generation family that had similar and I might add very terrifying experiences with these critters. I very much agree with Anonymous's comments. These creatures are very negative, and very much use psi-warfare to either be aggressive or for defense. One of these that I have personally experienced is when you get close to them, or a place of their habitation, or you are even contemplating any of the above, you will get absolutely slammed with thoughts of suicide. It takes enormous psychic and spiritual energy to defend against this. Dealing with them is not for the weak. In speaking to those who have had either direct or image/visual contact, I have never seen people so terrified. In many ways it is like your worst nightmare on steroids. A comment on the Swedish research community, and or the Scandinavian culture in general, they are generally very honest and forthright people who are not as prone to BS, con or manipulate as much as folks over here in the US. I am very familiar with that area of Sweden and it is indeed desolate in places.

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  2. I was not addressing the theory of reptilians as a whole. Just this transcript and all the oddities and claims by people. seems there is a website that claim ownership which they have no right to do. their arguments is that they translated it to english in 2004 LOL. so with their logic you can translate any authors book and then claim it as your own? I think I´m not alone in thinking this is just plain hilarious. that was what sparked my search for the possible more truthful origin of the transcript. I am a bit of a David Icke fan,so I´m not attacking this reptilian movement as a whole

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  3. It is very important to keep an open but not gullible mind. The transcripts includes odd and extreme claims, but the truth is...who can really judge? "Lacerta" says that most people would be sceptical because humans have been programmed to think on a lower level of consciousness. It is only when I take a step back and look at society now and how it got to this way...Life is full of deception and people are constantly doing things that were once believed impossible, so why is it so hard to believe that humans are not the only humanoids on earth or not the only planet with life similar to ours. In my opinion Earth is a resource center for our solar system and we (humans) were put here to protect it, but we got lazy and selfish to the point not only where we destroy the very planet that we live on, but we kill off species for fun. I personally believe that the human race has warn out or welcome and should be walking on eggshells to please our planet. I don't believe that it is possible for the world to end, but humans will be the first to go when nature takes it's toll, so for now, I cherish what I have and give thanks to everything and everyone. I don't necessarily believe in a God, but I know that everything answers to something when the time comes. Studdlydoright66@Gmail.com feel free to email me I am always open to learn new things. Thank you for your time.

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    1. Hey guys I was wondering if these reptiliens are the same kind that come in the DMT trips. (a drug that's used for rituals ex. Ayhuwashka of th sjaman's in tropical forest of amerika)

      Not that I've experienced a DMT trip myself, but according to Graham Hancock. He said that after a week session of those trip. He meet's a woman that could shape shift.

      Anyone knows something of it?

      Thanks by the way

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    2. I've also read this in several books and have wondered the same.

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    3. very well spoken!

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    4. Regarding DMT & Reptilians... I saw 3 dwarf like reptile beings with alligator snouts after smoking some years ago. They didn't fully manifest but were physically in the room in clear outline (like Predator movie). They were 'smiling' in a sinister way. Also had visions of the larger ones heads laughing like mad with a metal tower like a cell phone tower & a blue & gold pharoah head atop it.. Years later I read that an abductee had been told by beings matching the description of the long-snouted dwarf ones (first description I found matching their appearance) who told him they were involved in Egypt. Tying into that I have past life recall being a 'dark' priest in Egypt very oppressive.

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  4. so was the interview a sham? did this interview happen? or are we been taken for a ride? im confused

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    1. Like the bible...it's a sham!

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  5. Some interesting things about metalic doors to undergrounds found in Siberia and same shaped buildings mentioned in original transcript from Lacerta files:

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tunguska09a.htm

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    1. Checked out that Siberian link. Interesting indeed.

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  6. Interesting,but coupla tiny issues for me.At one point 'Lacerta' said human books were hard to get.....why?If you can appear human then just swan into your local library and best bit you aint gonna get fined for late return when you live 4500 metres down a secret mine shaft.Also if you were the dominant race and enjoyed the sun so much then why allow another race to 'take over' and retreat underground.....surely you'd restrict human activity or simply cull us off.Lastly how come the guy in the issolated cabin in the forest didn't have a heart attack when there's a knock at the door? I genuinely don't know what to believe any more.I know some very wealthy people are trying to extract every last penny from us all.I know much of our food ain't fit for pigs and i know our 'freedom' is being restricted more daily.The true motives behind it all,except obviously greed and a power trip i don't honestly know and suspect i won't discover watching you tube clips!

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    1. "The true motives behind it all,except obviously greed and a power trip i don't honestly know and suspect i won't discover watching you tube clips!"
      - I was thinking the same thing...one can hope the "truth" is that easy to find.

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    2. One interesting thing about Lacerta Files, is that it speaks about "Bubbles" and "Levels" for origins of other species, which somehow sounds like current theories in string theory or its successor the M-Theory for parallel universes (inflationary multiverse theory, membrane multiverse). I wonder if a good connection between modern scientific and mathematical understanding and New Age theory (including historic vedic tradition) has been made yet. It definitely is in part a pretty good (a) science (b) fiction

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    3. remember that, per this account, they can only influence people, not a camera, going into a town and in a library they would be caught by cameras as they are. She does explains this.

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  7. This interview raises several questions...

    1) Is it possible that the reptilian race the Elohim fought against millions of years ago causing the nuclear winter that whiped off most of dinosaurs(as described by lacerta) is mixed up with her own reptilian race?

    2) In connection to 2), is it possible that hatred against the reptilians is fueled by the Elohim (be it intentionally or unintentionally)?

    3) Are the terrans (the reptilian race lacerta belongs to) really as bad and evil as everybody says? Isn't it more likely that each race has different interests? (different interests from different races conflict eachother, making different races seem hostile when in fact they're not...?)

    4) What exactly has Lacerta's race done to be condemned to live underground? Lacerta surely seemed to be ashamed of what her race has done in the past, therefore avoids any further confrontation in that direction.

    5) In connection to 6), is it possible that there is some kind of "Galactic Forum" that decides such matters?


    Lacerta is right when she says that people generally are simple-minded and do not like to be confronted with things that do not fit there current point of world view. It's also true that we are defo NOT the "crown of creation" as we would like to believe. A vast majority of mankind are mindless sheep, and in that sense it's understandable why they are treated as such. It's why our governments tend to be police states, no matter whether they claim to be democratic or not (this is most likely due to the fact we fail as collective)
    From a psychological view, her attitude does not imply any negativity at all, she rather uses a more objective approach to explain things (however that does not necessarily mean that all of terrans/reptilians are the same way) She seems to be an open minded personality, being well aware that humans can be stupid and stubborn, but does not exclude the possibility for humans to be open-minded as well. And this is a treat a advanced personality, that likely is to have achieved a certain spiritual level as well.

    Not to forget to mention the very interesting technical details she has revealed in the second part of the interview (to be honest I do not understand all of them either, but it's almost like my feelings understand it - hard to explain)

    So considering all of this, it seems likely this is the truth. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out the terran's intentions. My feeling for justice is tingling considering that this planet most likely was their home, and we just took it from them and destroy it.

    It seems to me they were victims of a misunderstanding with the Elohim. And from the latter, I'm not sure about their intentions either. Most probably would think of the Elohim as our saviors, the angelic gods. I'm not quite sure anymore if they really are what people claim them to be, considering the terrans are so demonized in the bible - beware of alien war propaganda!?

    It's also interesting to see that pacifism and peace is hard to achieve even on a intergalactic level. And those humans or extraterrestrials that are trying to practice it are special and have in my opinion a certain value. Instead of working against eachother we could achieve so much more if we worked together. Or perhaps that's just me being a hopeless optimist! lol

    No matter what is true or not, I'll just repeat Lacerta's words: "Go through your world with open eyes and you will see"

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    1. i know exactly what you meant by your feelings understanding it.. i felt it too.. was a weird sensation in my heart as if the truth was subconsciously there and hearing it made me see it..hard to explain is right..its like using a magic marker i guess, i dunno lol and there has to be a galactic order. i dont know what those beings in the other higher plain are saying but if they can destroy us all with a thought you'd think they could take care of the tyrants. unless they themselves arent allowed? whats stopping them. maybe the flow of energy and balance of whats in place?
      what i found on my level of consciousness is that "life is relative and there has to be balance in everything". if only we could learn from them and become supreme in stead of living in this modern day world of slavery... live well and prosper my friend _V

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    2. I would assume that if they are extremely advanced they have great compassion and understand that the univers has a natural order and laws and they do not need to intervene... though we should not assume they are not...

      K

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    3. For those who said their feelings understand, I know exactly what you mean. I guess the term "gut instinct" or "intuition" could be used.
      There are more theories arising now about the heart being the organ that receives information first (generally emotional information) due the energy centers in the body.
      Here is a link if you're interested:
      http://www.slideshare.net/frodo2222/your-heart-is-the-first-organ-to-form-it-is-the-most-important-part-of-our-evolution-of-consciousness-the-heart-has-its-own-brain-and-consciousness

      While this article would fall under "pseudo science", I think in time the truth of these claims will come to light - what with the advances in theories like Super String Theory and M-Theory, we'll become more aware of the subtle energies that influence and effect us.

      I still remain slightly sceptical of the Lacerta Files, however. My gut tells me there is some truth in this. I am a "fence sitter" also, but only because my own pride won't let me accept that this might very well be true.

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  8. interesting interview,maybe some of it is truth
    However is hard to understand why would there be only the reptilian species "ancient terrans"
    Some other sources say that reptillians belong to a group of 11 to 14 different species working together
    I dont know if they have a "free federation" or a "imperial type" leadership but it seems that greys and reptilians are part of the same group

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    1. Yup! I am an abductee and can verify that this is indeed correct.

      Everything about the lacerta files strikes me as true given my personal experiences with the Greys, seing their ships hovering over my backyard as a child, and having been abducted myself many times. Not to mention there are litterally THOUSANDS of other people who have also been abducted and report having very similar experiences to my own. If you also consider the reasons why the US Governement would try to institute a coverup of this phenomenon (like wanting to reverse engineer alien technology and keep it to themselves secretly), then it makes total sense why we have been kept in the dark about these things. It is ironic that governments such as France, Russia, and Mexico have come out and offically made statements saying that UFOs and Aliens are real, yet the US Government (which is supposed to stand for freedom and democracy and freedom of speech), is primarily responsible for the world wide coverup of the UFO phenomenon and debunking process. Enough said...

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  9. I simply believe everyone is over thinking the whole thing fake or not its there and all rumors come from sort of truth and we know the truth instead of seeing the bigger picture and acknowledging that there are we want answers and explanations. I'm sure we all have our own theory that has been composed of different types of information from all kinds of resources and the truth is what we as an individual understand it to be. Lets not judge the information but take it and add it to what our individual concept is.

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  10. Anyone who believes in any of that crap is crazy. Aliens do not exist FACE IT! Also only reptilians on this planets are snakes, lizards, turtles...ect. Are you paranoid, delusional or what? I study psychology for years and I think that you all need help.

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    1. I would expect "outside of the box" kind of thinking of someone who studies psychology

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    2. For someone that studied psychology for years to come here and accuse everyone to be crazy... you probably should change profession.
      There is a post way befor that one... that has a rather "psychological / analytical" approach. There are many questions unanswered by this interview. No matter if it is real or not. There are many aspects that are interesting to analyze.

      *sorry for my bad english, but at least - i try it.

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  11. What a fantastic notion that we have descendants of dinosaurs living underground. But lets go back further. Animal (not Plant) Life on Earth was proposed to have started in the oceans...ancient fish grew limbs, and lungs. THere are still lung fish in Australia, living in river beds that havent changed much in eons. And 100 million years before the first dino, these lung fish were already ancient. Whether modern mammal (like us) or sauran/reptoid, we are ALL related on planet Earth. They are our brothers and sisters, tho slightly different. Many fish/reptiles bare their young in live births. Many fish/reptiles/mammals/birds lay eggs for their young to grow. 2 different methods, across all species.
    Life on Earth is more alien to us, than any alien we could even imagine.
    I hope she and her kind is real, and share this planet together...once Humans outgrow their greed.

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  12. Dear suckers,

    Whoever believes this is a sucker and deserves to be separated from their money and credibility.

    So send the checks then complain how corrupt the world is.

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  13. i have read a lot and watch a lot of thing related to alien, by far this ties together the missing pieces on my readings...from phil schneider to ancient alien theorists...we are bound by BELIEF SYSTEM since human has evolved...look around and you will know what is really out there...

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  14. I believe these documents are real based on the following evidence (if the dates are legitimate). If this interview took place on 1999 of December, Lacerta knew of the technologies of storing data inside the molecules of quartz, which has only lately been published in late 2012. This fact in itself should give credit to these files...

    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-09/25/hitachi-quartz-data-storage

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  15. I would really like to learn more information from this reptilian being about spiritual questions, which things are delusions programmed in by other beings, and which have a basis in reality, like is there life after death, or life before life, what is life? I'm really glad they are benevolent enough to let us live and go about our ways and lives unharmed while they go to great lengths to stay out of our way rather than have confrontation. I consider that very decent indeed.

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    1. So true, I was wondering that myself. I too would have asked about those questions without a doubt?....Do we continue on once we leave the body and to where we go, do....and for how long?....We need to find Lacerta for ourselves!!!

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  16. you know that part where she mentions the alien race decieving us,hiding true ways of propulsion of ships that we caught and tried reverse engeneering on?well.there is a message in crop circles that appeared in england,i think coupple of years ago,that says something like:"beware of the bearers of false promises";or something like that.that was just a part of the message.actually it was a response to our message sent 40 years ago in binary code.you can find it easely on the net.that was the first thing that crossed my mind hearing this part of the interview.

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  17. The first time I read the Lacerta File was in 2004. However now as of 2014, we see the social fabric of the USA breaking down, as well as unprecedented natural disasters; earthquakes, hurricanes, floods. Lacerta had mentioned these things in saying that what we term "aliens" would make war upon us by using weather and natural events, as well as influencing politicians to destroy the social fabric of our civilization.

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  18. I think this interview is legit. One of the things she predicted was the "upcomming war" which has been on going ever since 911.

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  19. Kss I am Kashalklasha a member of the yellow sun organization I have watched over your primitive humanoid species for years studying them I am a member of the "reptilian" species and I work as a seventh quadrant observer for EHPU (Earth's Humanoid Protection Unit) and I have worked in this position for just over 30,000 cycles. Our species is real we are the REAL natives of earth we have grown with the environment and have watched as new alien species and your own species have begun to populate. I will continue my watch over your species in the seventh quadrant.

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  20. the second part mentioned that government vans were watching him so they changed the meeting time/place .... Conrad claims he had correspondence with someone who was extremely nervous and then just disappeared this seems like rendition to me

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