Tuesday, February 21, 2012
The Lacerta Files debunked?
"The Lacerta Files"
If you have not already seen it there is a 2 hour long audio version of the lacerta interview on youtube transformed into audio by us here at Alternative Realities .click HERE to view it. We have had a pdf copy of this since ages and decided to transform it into audio. It's a great story about an alleged interview in Sweden with a reptilian woman belonging to an advanced underground "reptilian race" with super natural abilities and advanced technology.
To describe it shortly it is about a Swede named Ole K., who by a friend is told that he had met a reptile woman in south of Sweden.And Ole was to be permitted to interview the woman which he later did at two occasions, 16 December 1999 and 24 April 2000. The interviews takes place in an unnamed town in southern Sweden. The woman, who calls herself Lacerta (Latin for reptile) has a reptile-like appearance, but, with the help of her abilities she make people see her in human form. She says she belongs to an ancient race that lived underground for millions of years and hidden openings of their caves can be found in Sweden and lots of other places throughout the world. Further she says that some of the flying saucers we humans are seeing does belong her reptilian race. She travels to the surface now and then to study humans but does not normally allow open contact with anyone or let anyone see her in her true reptilian form.
Now there are some websites out there claiming to have some sort of copyright on this transcript that was granted by some Swedish guy named Jimmy Bergman! Problem is that when researching this it shows that Jimmy Bergman is just a fictional person. And the only explanation is that certain websites made that name up so that it would appear like they had been granted the copyright.Which is not the case there is no Jimmy Bergman to be found that claim to be the author or original receiver of this transcript that appeared about 10 years ago!
In the end this name seems to have been constructed for one purpose only! Namely a lame copyright scam attempt. Which is really hilarious since the transcript says it should be spread far and wide and shared via e-mail and printed copies etc... this transcript was also spread that way from the beginning, and also via various file sharing networks such as dc++ in pdf format
There are 14008 persons in Sweden with the last-name: Bergman and 17274 persons with the name: Jimmy. which gives you a hint of that this is not a very unusual Swedish name
The only traces of what could possibly be the original source of this transcript that has been in circulation for about 10 years now and has become known as The Lacerta files. Is a man named Jo Conrad a controversial German author of conspiracy and New Age literature.Jo Conrads books are pretty much taboo in Germany because of him being accused of "antisemitism" and being "nazi friendly". Well enough of that, (and back on topic) in Jo Conrads book Ursprünge (released 2000) he has a chapter about Lacerta. Further more when asked Jo Conrad has said that he had a very brief e-mail correspondence with a Swede named Ole K., who at the time seemed scared and after a while the correspondence ceased without explanation. and Jo Conrad never heard from him again and has nothing more to say about it? Another trace of the The Lacerta files origin is www.sabon.org ,At the time of the Lacerta Files publishing on the page it was registered on Rico Kolodzey and still is, Rico a German mystic who is mostly known for his claims to be able to feed and live of sunlight and water only! A claim he applied to prove on "The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge" but was pretty much laughed at and he was not allowed to participate. Rico is not replying on any questions concerning the files or from where he first got them. thats just about as deep as you can get in the search for the true origins of "The Lacerta Files" Now you tell me if I ruin people´s fun? with expressing my own little theory: That just maybe Jo and Rico the two controversial Germans happen to friends? And just maybe Jo Conrad the AUTHOR ! of conspiracy and New Age literature! is my main suspect of who is the creator of this transcript? We will probably never know and I guess thats just like those behind it wants it.
Fact or fiction it´s for you to decide
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My gut tells me the interview is indeed real. What she says coincides with many other testimonies ie: Urantia teachings, other insider testimony from those that have worked alongside reptillians in underground bases. They are NOT a race to be messed with. The Elohim of old warned humans about the reptoids for good reason. They were forced underground for good reason. I do hope the gent who had initial contact with Lacerta is still alive...something tells me he isn't. The reference link www.sabon.org speaks/warns that true protection comes from the Christ. I believe that to also be true. Faith is indeed our best armor...believe it and use it. She stated it is forbidden for her to make contact with humans..She thwarted divine universal law. Manylike her have thwarted those laws and work along side humans that temporarily profit from their greed for money and power. Soon that will all change. Thousands of humans have lost their lives to these flesh eating beings. They have no compassion for others as humans do and they hate us because of our divine heritage.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Christ say love your enemies ?
DeleteHybrids are the way to go :)
Based on several cases that I have investigated out here in the Western US, including looking into background info on the Branton material, I am very much convinced that the Reptilian lore, and the Lacerta files are for real. Included in this is a three generation family that had similar and I might add very terrifying experiences with these critters. I very much agree with Anonymous's comments. These creatures are very negative, and very much use psi-warfare to either be aggressive or for defense. One of these that I have personally experienced is when you get close to them, or a place of their habitation, or you are even contemplating any of the above, you will get absolutely slammed with thoughts of suicide. It takes enormous psychic and spiritual energy to defend against this. Dealing with them is not for the weak. In speaking to those who have had either direct or image/visual contact, I have never seen people so terrified. In many ways it is like your worst nightmare on steroids. A comment on the Swedish research community, and or the Scandinavian culture in general, they are generally very honest and forthright people who are not as prone to BS, con or manipulate as much as folks over here in the US. I am very familiar with that area of Sweden and it is indeed desolate in places.
DeleteI was not addressing the theory of reptilians as a whole. Just this transcript and all the oddities and claims by people. seems there is a website that claim ownership which they have no right to do. their arguments is that they translated it to english in 2004 LOL. so with their logic you can translate any authors book and then claim it as your own? I think I´m not alone in thinking this is just plain hilarious. that was what sparked my search for the possible more truthful origin of the transcript. I am a bit of a David Icke fan,so I´m not attacking this reptilian movement as a whole
ReplyDeleteIt is very important to keep an open but not gullible mind. The transcripts includes odd and extreme claims, but the truth is...who can really judge? "Lacerta" says that most people would be sceptical because humans have been programmed to think on a lower level of consciousness. It is only when I take a step back and look at society now and how it got to this way...Life is full of deception and people are constantly doing things that were once believed impossible, so why is it so hard to believe that humans are not the only humanoids on earth or not the only planet with life similar to ours. In my opinion Earth is a resource center for our solar system and we (humans) were put here to protect it, but we got lazy and selfish to the point not only where we destroy the very planet that we live on, but we kill off species for fun. I personally believe that the human race has warn out or welcome and should be walking on eggshells to please our planet. I don't believe that it is possible for the world to end, but humans will be the first to go when nature takes it's toll, so for now, I cherish what I have and give thanks to everything and everyone. I don't necessarily believe in a God, but I know that everything answers to something when the time comes. Studdlydoright66@Gmail.com feel free to email me I am always open to learn new things. Thank you for your time.
ReplyDeleteHow true
DeleteHey guys I was wondering if these reptiliens are the same kind that come in the DMT trips. (a drug that's used for rituals ex. Ayhuwashka of th sjaman's in tropical forest of amerika)
DeleteNot that I've experienced a DMT trip myself, but according to Graham Hancock. He said that after a week session of those trip. He meet's a woman that could shape shift.
Anyone knows something of it?
Thanks by the way
I've also read this in several books and have wondered the same.
Deleteso was the interview a sham? did this interview happen? or are we been taken for a ride? im confused
ReplyDeleteSome interesting things about metalic doors to undergrounds found in Siberia and same shaped buildings mentioned in original transcript from Lacerta files:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_ciencia_tunguska09a.htm
Checked out that Siberian link. Interesting indeed.
DeleteInteresting,but coupla tiny issues for me.At one point 'Lacerta' said human books were hard to get.....why?If you can appear human then just swan into your local library and best bit you aint gonna get fined for late return when you live 4500 metres down a secret mine shaft.Also if you were the dominant race and enjoyed the sun so much then why allow another race to 'take over' and retreat underground.....surely you'd restrict human activity or simply cull us off.Lastly how come the guy in the issolated cabin in the forest didn't have a heart attack when there's a knock at the door? I genuinely don't know what to believe any more.I know some very wealthy people are trying to extract every last penny from us all.I know much of our food ain't fit for pigs and i know our 'freedom' is being restricted more daily.The true motives behind it all,except obviously greed and a power trip i don't honestly know and suspect i won't discover watching you tube clips!
ReplyDelete"The true motives behind it all,except obviously greed and a power trip i don't honestly know and suspect i won't discover watching you tube clips!"
Delete- I was thinking the same thing...one can hope the "truth" is that easy to find.
One interesting thing about Lacerta Files, is that it speaks about "Bubbles" and "Levels" for origins of other species, which somehow sounds like current theories in string theory or its successor the M-Theory for parallel universes (inflationary multiverse theory, membrane multiverse). I wonder if a good connection between modern scientific and mathematical understanding and New Age theory (including historic vedic tradition) has been made yet. It definitely is in part a pretty good (a) science (b) fiction
DeleteThis interview raises several questions...
ReplyDelete1) Is it possible that the reptilian race the Elohim fought against millions of years ago causing the nuclear winter that whiped off most of dinosaurs(as described by lacerta) is mixed up with her own reptilian race?
2) In connection to 2), is it possible that hatred against the reptilians is fueled by the Elohim (be it intentionally or unintentionally)?
3) Are the terrans (the reptilian race lacerta belongs to) really as bad and evil as everybody says? Isn't it more likely that each race has different interests? (different interests from different races conflict eachother, making different races seem hostile when in fact they're not...?)
4) What exactly has Lacerta's race done to be condemned to live underground? Lacerta surely seemed to be ashamed of what her race has done in the past, therefore avoids any further confrontation in that direction.
5) In connection to 6), is it possible that there is some kind of "Galactic Forum" that decides such matters?
Lacerta is right when she says that people generally are simple-minded and do not like to be confronted with things that do not fit there current point of world view. It's also true that we are defo NOT the "crown of creation" as we would like to believe. A vast majority of mankind are mindless sheep, and in that sense it's understandable why they are treated as such. It's why our governments tend to be police states, no matter whether they claim to be democratic or not (this is most likely due to the fact we fail as collective)
From a psychological view, her attitude does not imply any negativity at all, she rather uses a more objective approach to explain things (however that does not necessarily mean that all of terrans/reptilians are the same way) She seems to be an open minded personality, being well aware that humans can be stupid and stubborn, but does not exclude the possibility for humans to be open-minded as well. And this is a treat a advanced personality, that likely is to have achieved a certain spiritual level as well.
Not to forget to mention the very interesting technical details she has revealed in the second part of the interview (to be honest I do not understand all of them either, but it's almost like my feelings understand it - hard to explain)
So considering all of this, it seems likely this is the truth. However, I'm having a hard time figuring out the terran's intentions. My feeling for justice is tingling considering that this planet most likely was their home, and we just took it from them and destroy it.
It seems to me they were victims of a misunderstanding with the Elohim. And from the latter, I'm not sure about their intentions either. Most probably would think of the Elohim as our saviors, the angelic gods. I'm not quite sure anymore if they really are what people claim them to be, considering the terrans are so demonized in the bible - beware of alien war propaganda!?
It's also interesting to see that pacifism and peace is hard to achieve even on a intergalactic level. And those humans or extraterrestrials that are trying to practice it are special and have in my opinion a certain value. Instead of working against eachother we could achieve so much more if we worked together. Or perhaps that's just me being a hopeless optimist! lol
No matter what is true or not, I'll just repeat Lacerta's words: "Go through your world with open eyes and you will see"
i know exactly what you meant by your feelings understanding it.. i felt it too.. was a weird sensation in my heart as if the truth was subconsciously there and hearing it made me see it..hard to explain is right..its like using a magic marker i guess, i dunno lol and there has to be a galactic order. i dont know what those beings in the other higher plain are saying but if they can destroy us all with a thought you'd think they could take care of the tyrants. unless they themselves arent allowed? whats stopping them. maybe the flow of energy and balance of whats in place?
Deletewhat i found on my level of consciousness is that "life is relative and there has to be balance in everything". if only we could learn from them and become supreme in stead of living in this modern day world of slavery... live well and prosper my friend _V
interesting interview,maybe some of it is truth
ReplyDeleteHowever is hard to understand why would there be only the reptilian species "ancient terrans"
Some other sources say that reptillians belong to a group of 11 to 14 different species working together
I dont know if they have a "free federation" or a "imperial type" leadership but it seems that greys and reptilians are part of the same group